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Scahill v Yiannopoulos

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I can understand why Jeremy Scahill backed out of doing HBO’s Real Time – though I think it would have been more about Milo Yiannopoulos‘s connection to Eric Prince rather than his social science rhetoric.  Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Milo hire Erik Prince or his friends, to protect him?

It is also my understanding that Milo wouldn’t be on the same panel/segment as Scahill, it’s a side interview, correct? Is it just a matter of timing or does that mean any TV show or network Milo graces Jeremy won’t?

If not, his rejection or boycott of Real Time with Bill Maher seems to be a simple protest against Milo being invited to appear on the program, yes?  The confusing parts are his reasons, and he doesn’t really elaborate on them beyond the standard MSM kinda rhetoric. I would like clarification on these “racist anti-immigrant campaign” accusations?

I don’t remember hearing Milo make any type of racist slur, Jeremy cites no instances, and I think there is a difference between immigrants who have gone through the system and immigrants who cut in line ahead of those who patiently waited their turn. I wonder, would Jeremy acknowledge there are differences?

Further, for Jeremy to say that Milo’s words could spark violence against immigrants and vulnerable people, well that can be said about anyone who speaks on just about any topic these days. Is every venue now a theater, and every topic the word fire?

It gives the impression that Jeremy doesn’t think much of the American People, and that’s okay cause neither do I, but Freedom to Speak, Free Speech, is more important, and that’s the risk we take by living in the USA, is it not?

It’s also the most important of all the Amendments, so important it was placed in the First Amendment and right after the non establishment or prohibiting of religion – or as I call it, the ability to imagine and create.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

When you think about the whole bunch, the Amendments that follow are there to basically instruct the government how to leave you alone, but that’s another topic.

Regardless, speech shouldn’t even be a big deal in this country, but it has become more so this last decade and we need to ask the question, why is that?

Without speech, agree or disagree, you can’t have any freedoms and if my speech, or your speech, or Milos speech sets people off on a path towards violence then we need to figure out PDQ why in the US people who CHOOSE to listen to anyone’s speech want to do anyone physical harm?

That is not what the Greeks had in mind, nor the Forefathers of the Nation.

It’s a risk Jeremy Scahill himself takes when he writes about the MIC. There are plenty of people in the Deep State who would like to shut him up; oh, and anyone who says Jeremy Scahill is a coward for not attending a TV show is really an uninformed idiot. Sorry, you need to look into the places Scahill has gone, and the people he has taken on before you call this guy a coward.

Anyway, what is most confusing is the stand Jeremy takes towards vulnerable immigrants. Using that logic, Bill Marher has probably done more to spur vitriol towards vulnerable immigrants – specifically Muslims – than most people on the planet, certainly in the MSM. So why didn’t Jeremy boycott his show long ago? Kind of a double standard, eh?

Stuck in two worlds perhaps – Legacy media vs the Internet and all things Free and Open?

Anyway, Jeremy’s reasons are his reasons, but in the realm of logic and constancy they fall short on this one and his efforts have actually done the exact opposite of what I think his real desires were. He has actually created more of a buzz, more PR, more money and more attention for Milo. [BTW, this is a great example of the differences between Legacy Media vs The Internets.]

Bottom line, the FEDS have chipped away at so many of our other Rights, we all need to be a purest on the issue of Free Speech or nothing else matters.

Sin-Seriously, nothing else matters.
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addendum: 02/20/17
Many people have weighed in on this show, the banter from both left and right were typical in response regarding Milo and Maher and his other guests. However, after watching the program I couldn’t help, but wonder what if Jeremy did the show, made some statement about how he doesn’t agree with anything Milo says, and since Jeremy speaks succinctly and is also a very fast talker he could have said everything and then some about how he felt about Milo in less then 30 seconds. What was missed was an opportunity, an opportunity bigger than the so called moral high ground Jeremy decided to take which was to chastise the MSM for their lack of reporting on Yemen. From Obama, to the Saudis, to the Israelis, to Trump. Such a great and grand opportunity was so sorely missed over what? A gay, right-leaning, white male, who enjoys sex with black men, hates feminists, chides overweight people, and is terrified that Muslims are going to throw him off a roof and behead him? People are being slaughtered in Yemen, the Saudis are bombing farms so the children starve; advice given to them by the Israelis, and the weapons killing these people are all provided by the USA.

Seriously Jeremy, you gave up a giant soapbox opportunity that could have informed the mostly uninformed Bill Maher audience because of a drama-queen named Milo?

sigh…. shakehead
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update – 02/20/17
I don’t think I have ever seen a person destroyed so quickly in my life than this:

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update – 02/21/17
…in clutching pearls –  I listen to both shows -complete- over the weekend and I walked away with a couple of thoughts.

1. I’m convinced that Milo Yiannopoulos was sexually abused as a young teenager, but I also believe he was a very precocious teen – and the reasons for that could be many.

The picture I have in my head comes from listening to him and his friends for almost a year. Apparently, he lived with his grandmother so obviously there were stability issues between mom, dad and home. I had also heard stories that his father was somewhat of a rough and tumble mobster. [for some reason I picture the film Snatch when I think about a portion of his upbringing]. Now the truth in all of that is fairly sketchy because I have absolutely no first hand knowledge. Regardless, if his history is true my experience with kids in these kinds of situation generally command a lot of attention, and they learn how to get it because they are taught that’s how life is done.

Society sends many mixed messages and there’s no doubt that a Catholic upbringing amplifies that mixture. Torn between guilt and the need to be guided, have limits and be wanted places vulnerable young minds, by our standards, in a very unhealthy and unstable place. Some people never quite work through them. Many drink, abuse drugs or commit suicide, we know that for most of modern history this was the fate of many homosexuals. Now clearly Milo craves attention, that’s his coping mechanism, perhaps his addiction, certainly better than drugs I guess. Anyway, there’s a lot there to process and by all means no doubt very complicated.

Milo has made it very clear on a number of occasions that he and all gay men have plenty to deal with, and let’s face it he joined up with a party that doesn’t see homosexuals as a wonderful addition to the club. Can you imagine the look on the NEOCON’s and Mitch McConnell’s face when they got wind that a gay-limey-black-dicksucking-catholic=jew-redcoat would be speaking at CPAC? You could almost hear that turtle-head mumble, “nofuckingway!”

So many people have said Milo is foolish and should just go home and sit with the Democrats where his accessory laden wounded childhood ass belongs. Others would say he’s a cutting-edge, a vanguard, the fountainhead, a trail-blazer for the new USAAAAAAAA, and still others will call him a provocateur, rabble-rouser, and attention whore.

Milo is entertaining, tiresome, probably a hell of lot of work, and might just be too European for most conservatives, but that’s Milo and the reason why people like him, nay love him, is cause he works so hard at being who he is. He’s real, or trying his best to be and that’s what the American people crave, and for most the desire to be real is buried deep down in our DNA. To be who you truly are without care and no physical harm, -to be- once again. We Americans were once real, we were once pioneers and trail-blazers too – now we’re a society full of schlubs, debt-ridden basket-cases, oxy-drugged up, running on empty and going no where fast. I’ve got a ton of clinches to describe American Society if anyone wants more.

But oooh, and aaaah, to have a temperament and think not it offends is a delight, that is true freedom, acceptance and how to build genuine community. Oh PLEASE, let the ISIS hoards have Europe and bring all the Europeans to the new world!.

I have more to say about none of this.
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2. So all that said – I don’t know what’s in Milo’s head or heart, but I know people who have gone through shit and how they deal with it depends on many factors.

How we, the public, in general deal with his words is hard to say.

I don’t think we will care much in the end cause we couldn’t care less about all the people our troops are killing in the Middle East right at this moment. Nor do we care about those we sell weapons to, nor those locked in our prisons for silly charges or for being mentally ill or addicted, nor those who are homeless sleeping rough and the list goes on and on and on and on …

Milo may be regarded as a defective human being, or one who deserves mass sympathy and empathy, he will suffer ridicule and vitriol, he may even end up being this generation’s Larry “Lonesome” Rhodes.

Is he advocating for pedos at any age? I don’t think so, I think he’s probably thought about this topic far more than most and is somewhat toughen by it’s outcomes, he has a thicker skin, wouldn’t you think? After all these tragedies just never seems to end, you fight and then you recoil, you do the best you can after you cry, a lot. What happens in too many of these cases is really beyond imagination. Most people can’t even look – it’s horrible. I did work for a short time with a few victims, I couldn’t handle it, I had to quit. 9 out of 10 case nothing happens, the system doesn’t work and it looks for compromises. You have to be more than just tough.

When you think about this topic and how it’s been approached it’s really not unlike the news we hear when the US bombs a hospital full of children, or when we discovered that the Saudis are bombing farms with weapons we sold to them in Yemen so the people will starve to death, or when those four young boys were playing on a beach near Gaza and were mercilessly gunned down by the Israelis with our tax dollars, or the women who have been raped, even grandmothers, in Europe by refugees who were made that way by their crazy religion and our government’s policies. What a toxic mix that is. Who came up with such an idea and plan?

We hear these thing all the time, we are shocked and sadden, but not surprised and yet we are never really inspired to do anything to stop this murderous abuse – we talk about them, joke about them, and we know these things are wrong and that we should take action, but oh well, what’s for dinner? What’s on TV? What video game should I play tonight?

We all know voting isn’t enough, right? Trump or Congress can say tomorrow morning, “No more war, bring the troops home, now!” We have some identifiable proof that such action actually works – see Vietnam.

But the Middle East, well that’s a volatile wasp nest in the world, and ya know, those people…

Do we think it’s our fault, and make excuses for these actions? We are after all bombing them or supplying the weapons to murder them. Our media no longer shows us the tragedies and sufferings. Why is that you think?

And what about the children, our children, are we doing them a disservice by not hunting down and locking up every creepier than thou pedo? Why aren’t we banishing them after time served, deporting them to a desert island never to be heard or seen from again, never to cause harm to the most vulnerable in our civilized society? Why haven’t we sent that strong message of absolute caring for our children? Is it cause, as long as it’s not my kid?

Oh God, who even wants to or have to think about that shit, much less deal with people who have suffered through it and the mistakes they make that always follow? Not me, how about you?

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Milo’s Full Press Conference (2/21/17)
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“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” -Leo Tolstoy
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…continued updates…

Roosh V makes an argument – 02/22/17

My goodness Aunty Em, I didn’t think this topic would still be going on, but here we are…

A few points in response to RooshV. First, nice shirt. 2nd, soon as I escape Liberalland, which feels more like Hotel California, and looks a lot like Scarfolk I will make real vlogs. If you want to help me escape drop a key or two on my Patreon or bitcoin, like a ring full of them one will eventually fit the lock and set me free.

Re Milo: If Milo pushes back too hard now they will accident him, and he doesn’t have any real martyr status yet.

Roosh is absolutely right about Breitbart.

Re Trump: Trump has a history of capitulating in business, he sees it as part of “The Deal” just look at some of the people he has appointed. Further, his real loyalty is to family first/last, his narcissism extends to, ‘be glad it’s me and not Hillary, I didn’t have to do this ya know.’

Re Spencer: Spencer has problems with homosexuals, they can’t breed in the traditional family way. He joins the NeverTrumps on this front, along with the segregationists and separatists. btw, there are people who think Spenser should replace Milo at Breitbart.

Interesting in this Milo escapade, trip, slip, perhaps downfall; though I think he has phoenix blood in him, that we also see all the splinter groups in the GOP very clearly now. Before we saw the conservatives and anti-Trumps, but in this hot mess we see who and how they identify.
(do you hate that term identify, sorry).

Republicans: Libertarian, Libertarian-Isolationists, Traditional Conservatives, Cuck-servatives, Reagan-Democrats, RINOS, Never-Trumpers, Far-Right, Alt-Right, Neo-Right, NEOCONS. (did I miss any?)

In contrast we have the so-called liberals. The left is united under the Democrats, from Antifa and BLM to the traditional blue dog democrats, but ONLY through hating Trump. The real persuasive power is in the TRUE Progressives who hate the leaders of the Democrats.

In the end Roosh wins the argument on what is most important, free speech, that IS the clarion call.

I do believe that we have now reached the end of this chapter, but we’ll see.

…umm… well… not yet

02/22/17
Molyneux Deconstructs Milo
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02/22/17
Sargon of Akkad

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02/28/17
The Curious Case of Milo Yiannopolous

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We Are At War
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We Are At War – ALT M

altmI have an idea that could be useful to all those in the alt-media who wish to join forces and beat the onslaught of the corporate owned control freaks in the MSM.

Goal:
To develop an alternative media clearinghouse that is based on Current News Topics submitted only by those in the alt-media who wish to support and participate in the clearinghouse.

The website for this outlet should be simple, text based.

Traffic will be topic driven. Members can choose what topics they believe are High Level, Medium Level and a Constant Level Alert in order to fulfill the desired effects of getting the information to the public while letting the public know that alt-media exists and is a vital part of the public’s discourse and welfare.

Members have complete creative control regarding how they approach each topic. The only part necessary to agree upon is the topic level, more about that in a bit.

Topics:
It doesn’t matter how you approach a particular topic as long as it is titled and labeled either fact based or opinion driven.

All contributions submitted should be short, in summary form, with a link to a longer piece if needed or desired.

If a High Level Alert is perceived to last longer than the 24 hour news cycle it is hoped members will continue to push the current high level narrative even if it is just a reminder to your viewers or readers of your work or the work of others in order to be mindful of the current situation. Keeping the topic in the forefront of the public’s mind is paramount. As they says,  it’s all in the timing.

What Constitutes alt-media?
1. Nothing MSM.
2. A thoughtful and very informed individual/citizen.
3. A small news outlet or fact based citizen journalist with a constant presence on the net.
4. A dedication to diminishing the corporate owned MSM.

How It Works:
All members of the alt-media are welcomed to subscribe to the Alt-M.tba website and agree to do at least one story in concert within 12 hours under the topic of a high level alert

Three Levels of Alerts:
High, Medium and Constant.

Incorporating the memetics paradigm is highly encouraged.

High Level Alerts:
Are topics that appear to be catching on, like a festering wound, but are not based in fact, sourced or a questionable narrative that is receiving incalculable amounts of spin by MSM. Under a high level alert it is expected that all members will produce some sort of story/video combating that alert over a 12 hour period. All members must participate, even if that means you are already working on something and waiting for more information, still, let your viewers know the topic exists and that your report is coming soon. The alt-media topic is what matters most and that there are others outside the MSM working on the subject as well. “Be calm facts are coming.”

Examples of High Level Alert: SOPA, war, a whistle-blower coming forward, terror attack, weapon’s deals, government worker or agency lying – something that will either be confirmed with facts or works to counter or question the spin coming from the MSM. High Level can also be a bi-yearly or monthly concerted effort to inform the public that there are alt-media sites available to them at all times.

Medium Level Alert:
This would be something less urgent, but enough concern that people come together to produce topic based stories in concert. This level would be important information that could lead to further conflict or danger, it is a very watchful eye. If the perception is that all facts are not being released, or the MSM is leading up to a particular misguided narrative, this level would be akin to the town crier.

Medium Level topics are ongoing until they become High Level or they are resolved and archived.

Medium Level topics might be something you wish to pontificate upon over the course of a week, a month or years. It’s always in wait or at dead rest. It can open the door to more information from your readers or other alt-media members, perhaps even provide an outlet for whistle-blowers.

Constant Level Alert:
A piece produced by alt-media members at will, reminding the public how the MSM gets it wrong, or out right lies. This level provides an opportunity to report and shine a light on the spin and lies of the MSM and their over paid and elbow rubbing cohorts.

It is recommended that all members document their observations whenever possible using tags, dates, times and a document the particular medium. A good example would be, Chris Cuomo stating that it is only legal for the MSM to look at the DNC hacked e-mails produced by wikileaks. 10/16/16, 10AM, EST. CNN (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A).

Everything else is up to the writer, and as a reminder you are always free to approach any topic in your own creative way and from your own personal perspective, as long as you state to the viewer or reader you are talking about facts (which you can back up) or this is your educated opinion.

Your suggestions for topics are also a good way to share and be inspired by others. Think about giving props to another alt-media news site or author if you are inspired to write or bring a particular topic to the attention of your subscribers.

Website:
Depending on the sophistication of the system to distribute this idea can become rather complicated – but I encourage the development of this system to be simple and easy to access.

4 Pages:
Front Page – Topics and Alert Level displayed.
Page 2 – List of News Outlet and archived updates.
Page 3 – List of Individuals Reporters and links to their site.
Page 4 – Member’s Page Access.

The front page, outlet and individual reporters pages will be open to the public and have a direct link to your site or channel.

The Member’s Page is only open to members. Here members are allowed to set topics and vote on the levels of any particular subject, it is also a place to commit to writing or recording with others alt-media members about different subjects, perhaps even a vbulletin forum.

There should also be an e-mail and text alert system once a topic becomes high level. It is further thought that any topic reaching a high level alert should be decided by at least 5 trusted members who agree unanimously to alert members through the texting and e-mailing system.

Donations:
A kickstarter and donation buttons, perhaps even a Patron page can be established

Why?
We need this because we are at war and could lose so much if not all. The abuse and power of MSM and the growth of the Independent Alternative Media has changed the information landscape, from Andrew Breitbart to wikileaks and the hosts of other investigative alternative news web sites whose priority is exposing the truth, not spinning the story for parties, lobbyist, banks and corporations. Love him or hate him Andrew Breitbart was correct, we are at war with the MSM, we need to jump in and lasso the narrative quick, and we need to take hold and use the memetics at every turn!

alt-media has to act and organize fast, it can’t be bothered by personal politics, religion, race, gender or philosophy – all the things use to divide us – right now it’s about securing the narrative and making sure there is always a chair at the table for the truth and your freedom to report and speak it. If we don’t organize now, we could lose our voices.

To Recap 
1. Incorporate memetics, video and written paradigms.
2. Where topics are driven by timing and the effect they have on the well being of the public to decide.
3. Using the concept that there is power in numbers and knowledge is power.

Calling out the MSM quickly and with force creates it’s own being or entity to contend with, alt-media thus becomes a bullhorn, grabbing more of the public’s attention in order to educate or at least giving the publics the notion to say, “Hold on, not so fast MSM,” in a bigger and more focused way.

What do you say, let’s light this candle!

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update: 02/16/17
Just a quick note, the amazing response by the alt-media and the broader community to help and stand-up for pewdiepie was not only amazing, but demonstrates and proves the power we have as members and advocates for the alt-media, and as the people and citizen of many nations. I beg you to start organizing now before the MSM catches on and works to silence every voice that chooses to take the leap and step-up. Remember, they have endless funds, plenty of time, a ton of lawyers, own most of the politicians, along with having the deep state in their pockets.

FYI:
TPP is back under a new name TISA.

Sorry folks, sadly Trump’s no friend to Net Neutrality.

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As most of you know I am a big advocate for free speech, so whatever your bag I believe you have a right as a human being to express your thoughts. If you’re interested I outlined mine a bit in this article here, but to recap, watch the video linked to pewdiepie above, he made a really nice and sincere response. I can honestly say his channel didn’t interest me, but after his response I actually subscribed in order to support him, this man is very dynamic. I also realize he does a lot of silly caca, but if he decided to take on any issue as a vocation there’s no doubt in my mind he would be very successful because he is authentic, the real deal, a mensch.

There has also been a number of wonderful video responses made regarding what happen to pewdiepie; if anyone wants links leave a comment and I’ll pull them together and post them directly here.

In all honesty, I have to say this particular situation was really a clear shot across the bow, people need to come together and develop a small yet efficient system to remain vigilante. The MSM may not make the same mistake of picking on a very popular youtuber again, they will simply chip away and silence those who do not have the same exposure or numbers.

The reach needs to be broader than the local community as well. If pewdiepie didn’t have the number of subs he has (53 Million, YOW!) he would have been left to the wayside or relegated to the dust bin of history.

No matter, I have to admire pewdiepie, a.k.a. Felix Kjellberg  (BTW,  did you know Felix means happy, and isn’t that a wonderful name for this fellow? ), he could have taken his money and gone on to other things, but he didn’t, he stood up and not just for himself, but for humanity, for free speech; how often do you get to do something like that in your life and actually make a difference?!

Personally, I have a lot of dull and boring things on my plate, far too may filled with pointless stress and anxiety, trust me, I’d rather do something like the above than what I actually do to survive, wait, hold on, whilst I check my lottery ticket…..  As I was saying, if things turn around in one direction or the other I would love to be part of a project like the above, a movement or some mechanism that works to protects individual rights to speak rather than funding a small cabal of 6 media outlets that own 80% of the MSM we get now.

Please, keep me in mind, and feel free to ask. Remember, advice is always free and help is on the way!

 

update 02/19/17

Michael Moore is now using idea and the energy.

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I don’t have an editor so, as always if you see any errors, inaccuracies or have suggestion let me know. Ran into a few template problems, if something doesn’t make sense it could be the tools, let me know so I can look into the errors.
-thanks

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